I'm actually not the biggest fan of achievements and prefer it when MMOs don't have them, as the big UI pop-ups tend to take me out of the world too much, but seeing how they seem to be considered pretty much a standard feature of most games nowadays, I've learned to live with them. Sometimes they'll even motivate me to do something! I won't necessarily go out of my way to hunt for achievements, but if I'm already doing something, and there's an achievement to do just a little bit more for example, that can definitely work as an incentive.
For those who don't know, SWTOR originally launched without an achievement system, but added one with the Rise of the Hutt Cartel expansion in 2013, which included a lot of retrofitted achievements for older content. However, there were always some things that made me go "huh" - every time I found myself a bit surprised that there wasn't an achievement for a particular thing. Here's my top five list of achievements that I would still add to old content:
1. Being sneaky in the Black Hole
In first place, we have the mission that inspired this whole post: [Daily] Eyes and Ears on Republic side or [Daily] Hypermatter Directive on Imp side. These are mirrored dailies that require you to click on five spots in a warehouse while navigating a bunch of sensors that will spawn a guard droid each if you trip them. There's no particular punishment for this other than having to kill the droid so you don't have to do it perfectly, but I at least try to be perfectly sneaky every time, and on the rare occasion when I succeed, I always feel extremely proud. Alas, the game doesn't agree that this is a special feat and there's no achievement for it. If any daily mission ever deserved an achievement, I think it's this one.
2. Kill Esh-ka
One type of common achievement that was added with Rise of the Hutt Cartel was to kill a bunch of mobs on every planet, often sorted into different categories. On Voss for example, there's one to kill hostile droids, members of the opposite faction, and several different kinds of beasts. I didn't inspect all the newly added achievements in advance, so as I quested my way across the different planets for the first time after the expansion, it was always interesting to see what would pop up.
I have this distinct memory of doing this on Belsavis, and at one point wondering why nothing had popped up yet for the dozens of Esh-ka I'd killed. And then I checked and found that there wasn't even an achievement for these mobs... which make up what feels like half the enemies on the planet. I always thought that was a bit odd.
After thinking about it a bit more, I can only guess that the devs were worried that something like "kill 100 Esh-ka" might sound kind of... genocidal? Generally the kill achievements for humanoids ask you to take out a faction, not a species. But that strikes me as something that could be addressed with proper wording - "defeat 100 Esh-ka escapees" or something. I want my wading through tunnels and tunnels full of these to be acknowledged!
3. Harmonised flashpoint achievements
When a new flashpoint comes out nowadays, it generally has a pretty standard set of achievements: do it x times on story/veteran mode, do it x times on master mode, kill each boss at least once, and then maybe a couple of extra achievements for bonus bosses or special mechanics. This wasn't always the case though, and if you look back at the achievements archive, there are quite a few flashpoints that only have an achievement for running them once on story or vet mode, such as the Esseles, Black Talon, Athiss, Mandalorian Raiders and more. I think this is because at the time, they were low-level content that didn't scale, and it didn't really make sense to ask people to re-run a level 20 flashpoint twenty times after they'd out-levelled it (though there are always alts I guess...) Nowadays though, with everything being scaled, I don't see why these achievements shouldn't be the same across the board. Same with flashpoints that are lacking achievements for their bonus bosses, such as Assault on Tython and Korriban Incursion.
I know some old-timers would hate me for this - "I've already run the Esseles a hundred times and now you want me to run it another twenty times for a new achievement in 2024?!" Well... yeah. I'd still do it.
4. Planetary storylines
This one is fairly simple: I think it's a bit of a missed opportunity that there are achievements for completing all the class stories, but none for doing all the planetary storylines at least once. I'm not saying they're all narrative masterpieces, but I think they add a lot of context for each planet and achievements could make for a good incentive to encourage people to give them a try. I still occasionally see comments from players who try to do literally nothing but their class story and then wonder why they end up under-levelled at some point.
5. Exploration missions
I've always felt a bit sour about the fact that exploration missions get hidden by default nowadays, until I heard Swtorista say in a stream that they apparently confused people? I don't know, that was before we had the purple markers for main story missions... either way, I think at the very least they deserve an achievement of their own as well, to give people an incentive to check them out, similar to the planetary storylines. For these, I guess I wouldn't make a separate one for each planet, but simply something like "complete 50 exploration missions across the galaxy" (or however many there are - I wouldn't require you to do them all, but probably something like two thirds of them).
Have you ever come across something in game that made you go "huh, I'm surprised there isn't an achievement for that"? Feel free to share in the comments!
At one point I thought there was an achievement for that Black Hole mission, but I was wrong. Having screwed it up a number of times I was disappointed that nothing popped up when I finally got it done sneakily. These days I try to still do it sneakily just because there isn't an achievement. Dammit I'm going to be 'the sneaky' for myself even if the game won't acknowledge it. ^_^
ReplyDeleteI would like to see the planetary missions have achievements. Especially if you could have light or dark side endings. Those variations would make it fun to revisit them.
I would like to see the exploration missions have an achievement for each planet. Call them "the Explorer of" for each one and have "the Galactic Explorer" (or Galactic Busybody ;)) for doing all the planets.
I'm going to have to think about any others. It's not something I've considered, but this is a cool concept.
I agree wholeheartedly on achievements for some of the side story stuff like Polanetary stories etc.
ReplyDeleteI also like how most newer flashpoints seem to have a bunch of extra achievements for doing specific things, or hidden secrets.
On that note, maybe hardcore raiders would anjoy some Mark of Mastery achievements for older operations? I'm sure some fun challenges could be come up with (like for example kill a specific Cartel Warlord last etc.).
What about an achievement for doing stuff like the tauntaun pet on Hoth? The nerfs have an achievement but the tauntaun pet does not. Also Ossus datacrons have no achievement attached to them (there are some unused achievements in files for opening chests and discovering Odd Bnar's legacy for Ossus).
I like to be sneaky in that mission because it's just faster not having to fight any droids.
ReplyDeleteAnyways, I think the Exploration Mission toggle is on by default for new characters now. I made a new character recently and I think it was already on. I always have a habit of checking that after making a new character.
I would like to see an achievement for "time played".
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10 hours
100 hours
1000 hours
10000 hours
And an final achievement... one minute before the last server shut down... "fast friend".
Unfortunately people would afk their way to those achievements so they wouldn't really represent actual play time. There's also the issue of those sorts of things being unhealthy and/or causing possible negative PR issues.
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