I don't really have anything too deep or meaningful to say this week, but just wanted to ramble a bit about doing dailies on Oricon. The change the devs made to daily areas with the Bessi patch still kind of fascinates me. It was very much a footnote to the actual venture, but dailies used to be one of the few endgame activities that were still largely gated behind a character's story progression, so seeing them get opened up account-wide with so little fuss just surprised me.
And it does seem a bit like... things weren't exactly optimised for this change in some ways, as I found out while questing on Oricon this past week. One of the weekly seasons objectives was to do exploration or repeatable missions in Empire space, and Oricon was one of the eligible planets.
I hadn't unlocked it at all on Shae Vizla yet, so I took my Sith warrior there to start the story. As I arrived in the base, I saw the daily mission terminal all lit up with quests and a little light went on in my head as well.
For those who don't know, the Oricon story requires you to do four simple missions as part of a storyline that eventually cumulates in you being sent into the Dread Fortress operation, and the dailies didn't used to unlock until you'd done the first three of those story missions. These dailies would then also be similar to the original one-time story quests, for example requiring you to destroy three terraforming devices when the storyline originally asked you to destroy five.
So I thought to myself: Wait, if I can pick up the dailies from the start, do I get a two-for-one? I picked up the first story mission to rescue Republic soldiers from escape pods, grabbed the daily mission with the same objective and indeed: every pod I opened gave me credit towards both! I love it when I get to make use of synergies like that.
Unfortunately, the smooth experience didn't last. I first started to run into problems when I got to the quest that requires you to locate a dark energy source by collecting "bioenergy enhancers" from the local mobs (ten for the one-time mission, five for the daily). I collected a whole bunch and then clicked on them to do the locating. One of the quests updated, but the other one didn't. I tried to use the item again, but it wouldn't let me because it kept saying that I'd already done that bit.
Somewhat annoyed, I proceeded into the phase for the quest and completed the one that was on the correct step. When I looked into my bags afterwards to try and use the bioenergy enhancers again for the second quest, they had disappeared, clearly "cleaned up" automatically due to me completing one of the missions. So I had to farm up another set, locate the dark energy source again, and repeat the encounter in the phase. Alright.
Things got worse in the watchtower. I defeated the various droids inside the control room, clicked on the final panel that's supposed to spawn Commander Zaoron and... nothing happened. This was when I noticed that only one of the two missions had updated correctly while the other one wasn't even on the right step. So I exited the phase again, reset the one that had progressed ahead of the other one and went through the whole rigmarole a second time. This time both missions updated successfully.
I watched the cut scene for the one-time mission and then... couldn't click on the holocron to complete the quest. I sighed and went back out once again, but at least one of the missions completed as I did so. I just reset the phase this time (instead of the whole mission) and went back in yet again, hoping that the game would be less confused now with only one quest left, and indeed, the holocron finally became clickable.
All in all, it wasn't the worst thing in the world, and I did get a lot of quests done in one run, but there was also a lot of trial and error with various resets involved. This is unfortunately the kind of thing that makes the game feel somewhat unpolished at times but at the same time isn't likely to get fixed because it's not a hard blocker and you can eventually push through with enough persistence.
Have you had any interesting experiences with the new daily zone unlocks for characters that haven't actually done that planet's story yet?
I haven't tried doing a daily zone on a character that hasn't done the appropriate story unlocks yet.
ReplyDeleteThat said, I HAVE seen both issues you mention on the watchtower quest (commander not spawning, holocron not clickable) before the update. It was an infrequent bug, but both I and some guildies had run into it over the years, so I wonder if this is a case where the update made an existing issue worse. (Interestingly enough, our usual workaround was just to have someone else come into the phase to click things for us).
That's interesting to know! I've occasionally encountered quests bugging out in similar ways, but never these particular ones.
DeleteI think I've been so trained about doing the story unlocks that I wouldn't have tried doing Oricon on a character that needed to do the unlocks. It's good to know about the quirks if I do them now.
ReplyDeleteI think I've had some of the bugs with the holocron in the watchtower, but if I remember right I could just exit and reset the phase and try that bit again. Still, it's been years since I've done those dailies/quests so my memories might be being flaky.
One of the negative side effects of this is that they removed the two missions on Rishi that setup the Great Beast Hunt daily. It used to be An Interrupted Hunt->Hunting Trail->The Great Beast Hunt (kell dragon boss). After this change the first two are no longer available to anyone that has unlocked Rishi dailies. Because this is account-wide, it means players only ever get to see those missions once per account.
ReplyDeleteOh, I didn't know about that one, that's a shame!
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