tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post2219571870925430239..comments2024-03-26T20:47:12.919+00:00Comments on Going Commando | A SWTOR Fan Blog: Five Myths That Shouldn't Stop You From Playing Star Wars: The Old RepublicShintarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-84972223600095707592023-11-28T09:15:02.304+00:002023-11-28T09:15:02.304+00:00Never apologise for leaving a friendly comment! 😉...Never apologise for leaving a friendly comment! 😉<br /><br />Like I said in the post, it's not that you can't play it that way, it's that being able to play by yourself is something you can do in <i>most</i> MMOs and doesn't mean that there isn't anything multiplayer going on for those of us who care about that.Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-52408566052949669132023-11-28T08:52:58.038+00:002023-11-28T08:52:58.038+00:00Sorry for replying to a message from years back bu...Sorry for replying to a message from years back but it's funny that you put #1 as it being a singleplayer game because the fact that I can play the game solo is what got me into it (same with FFXIV) I would never have gotten into Swtor if I was forced to play with other people.jeanettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01118744968338966810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-69277032249581223372015-09-30T21:43:41.912+01:002015-09-30T21:43:41.912+01:00Alright, I'll bite. I'll double check tho...Alright, I'll bite. I'll double check those claims, but so far all of the evidence I've seen points towards some pretty heinous design in the xp formulas. Even if what you're saying IS true, then that still means that mob xp formulas are pants-on-head-retarded.Michael Dessainnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-19912595043674674682015-09-30T19:39:34.093+01:002015-09-30T19:39:34.093+01:00Actually you get a huge XP boost while questing in...Actually you get a huge XP boost while questing in a group. E.g. if you do a heroic quest in a group of four, you'll receive XP for completing the quest yourself, and then another bunch for every other person in your group who also completes the quest and is of the right level to get XP for it (it doesn't quite quadruple your XP, but it's still a pretty big bonus, especially since things like bonus missions work the same way). I assume your comment about higher level players in your group reducing your XP applies to things like mob kills, but that's a pretty irrelevant part of the SWTOR levelling process really.Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-22171918490378613872015-09-30T19:10:29.445+01:002015-09-30T19:10:29.445+01:00For all that this article gets right, it gets grou...For all that this article gets right, it gets group play HORRIBLY wrong. Not only are there SEVERAL Instances where grouping is SEVERELY limited (admittedly not FORBIDDEN, but still) the biggest mistake is claiming that grouping gives an XP boost. The truth of the matter is, the much vaunted Grouping XP is pretty much non existent because not only is it pathetically tiny, it actually gets replaced with a huge penalty if anyone in the group is so much as a single level apart from anyone else in the group! What's worse, the penalty scales in such a way that the lower level players are the ones that get less xp which pretty much garuntees that the smallest of xp gaps will swiftly turn in to chasms.Michael Dessainnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-78132853758436213432015-05-22T22:14:54.505+01:002015-05-22T22:14:54.505+01:00I really enjoyed this expose. I have to agree with...I really enjoyed this expose. I have to agree with you, many of these are pure myths rather than fact. Ultimately I think it's what a player does to get the entertainment value out of the game. I personally seek out interaction when I need it or play solo when I want it. There is enough activity going on on the servers across the board that you can indeed fulfill your wants or needs in the game. Now occasionally it may mean a server switch depending upon flavor. I left Jung Ma because I wasn't seeing enough instance content. But if I were into both RP-PvP strictly, I would say that server is bar none the best. I think you have to put in what you want to get out of an MMO and I believe you really put it in a perfect way with your post. Well done Shintar!Mhorgrimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12477248508719375474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-7257448761389281652015-05-17T22:51:57.883+01:002015-05-17T22:51:57.883+01:00In fairness to WoW, I think it has improved the gr...In fairness to WoW, I think it has improved the group-friendliness of its questing a little bit - last time I played it on live in MoP, I remember noticing that the new quests all shared credit even when there was stuff to click on, and the chests on the Timeless Isle were also usable by all group members...<br /><br />I'm not saying that SWTOR's payment model couldn't be improved (e.g. I also think that restricting basic emotes is pretty silly) but I don't think that there's anything inherently wrong with restricting <i>some</i> UI features. Since they decided to be generous with the content, they had to make subbing feel worthwhile in some other way; otherwise there is just no point to it. (That's something that I seemed to see a lot in comments about RIFT for example: lots of praise for Trion's generosity, and then admission that paying for a sub doesn't seem worth it because of that.)<br /><br />Not all relics below 50 have light or dark side requirements! A lot of them too, but there are other options. (You can check TORCommunity's new <a href="http://torcommunity.com/database/search/all?name=relic" rel="nofollow">item database</a>!)<br /><br />I can't really comment on Treek as I only bought her for credits on my main but hardly ever use her as I rarely need a tank companion and her sounds are annoying. I've never had any particular issue with using the "normal" companions.Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-49765745953832411172015-05-17T22:30:25.010+01:002015-05-17T22:30:25.010+01:00Great Scott! Alert the church elders! Hell has fro...Great Scott! Alert the church elders! Hell has frozen over! I disagree with Shintar. All joking aside, I actually agree with most of your points, esp. the one about SWTOR *not* being a single player game. In fact, I’d even say that it’s a lot more group friendly than WoW (or other MMOs for that matter) because XP is increased in groups, most quest items are lootable by every group member and clickable items also count for all group members. None of that is the case in WoW. Or at least that’s how it used to be when I was still playing.<br /><br />I have to say, however, that I disagree with your assessment of SWTOR’s payment system, more specifically with the way the cash shop is implemented. Some of the free-to-play and preferred restrictions are simply ridiculous and rather petty. Limited hotbars, inability to unify colours or to hide the head slot; no /hello emote ... WTF?! That’s messed up! I can come to terms with almost all other restrictions, e.g. number of characters, credit limit, mail limit, loot limit, storage limit etc., but there’s simply no excuse for hiding interface adjustments/options behind a paywall. None at all!<br /><br />Two more very minor tidbits: (1) playing a “grey” character, i.e. Neutral alignment does affect one’s leveling progression somewhat because all relics below level 50 require a Light or Dark standing. I personally experienced this on my grey Scoundrel who constantly had to leave two gear slots empty (less HP, missing CDs). I will admit, however, that this is hardly noticeable. (2) "<i>nothing in the shop bestows any kind of gameplay advantage</i>" Tell that to Treek ;) IMHO the very best companion.<br /><br />Another excellent post as always, of course. :)Maldwizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02726258842496198525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-64844743238473248812015-05-16T23:14:44.658+01:002015-05-16T23:14:44.658+01:00Peepl still plae diz gam lulz TORtanic
That's...Peepl still plae diz gam lulz TORtanic<br /><br />That's the sentiment I see expressed most often when I start talking about SWTOR. It's sad really ... the game is truly fantastic and I'm loving diving back into it. More's the pity for them!Targeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15058694309677686827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-60226592174271187822015-05-16T13:15:12.268+01:002015-05-16T13:15:12.268+01:00There's nothing wrong with deciding to fly sol...There's nothing wrong with deciding to fly solo in SWTOR (or most other MMOs really). :) What's wrong is people calling it a single player game (usually in disparaging tones), because it implies that there is no worthwhile group content for those that do enjoy playing with others on a regular basis.Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-11234837548625148912015-05-16T12:28:28.076+01:002015-05-16T12:28:28.076+01:00I joined with a friend, then that friend just uppe...I joined with a friend, then that friend just upped and left for stupid reasons, but I still stayed an play, I'll group up occassionally, but it's not me, I understand this is an MMO, and I understand that some like to group up and etc. But there are still players that just want to play and not be rushed, and for someone that enjoys all the stories, I don't want to be rushed into making a hasty decision or be told a million times over in chat "Spacebar" it ...Guess that's why I just do what I do, and still have fun. Shadowzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15857409581886145055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-50101892352984433622015-05-16T08:41:53.111+01:002015-05-16T08:41:53.111+01:00I remember shortly after launch the subject of &qu...I remember shortly after launch the subject of "grey Jedi" came up all the time and Bioware said that they were working on rewards for neutral characters, but that is one of those things that clearly had to be scrapped when the game's priorities shifted in anticipation of the F2P conversion.Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-17146045695884766882015-05-16T08:39:20.090+01:002015-05-16T08:39:20.090+01:00The credit limit is indeed incredibly low. I remem...The credit limit is indeed incredibly low. I remember looking over my ex's shoulder when he played as preferred for a while and he kept getting "you are almost at the credit cap" warnings every time he looted a mob; it was pretty irritating!<br /><br />I do think that something like the WoW token for SWTOR would be cool, but it's precisely the credit limit for unsubscribed players that would make it tricky to handle, because I'm pretty sure that a month of game time would be valued at several million credits and therefore out of reach of the people who could use it the most.Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-66873674471072727242015-05-16T08:02:09.495+01:002015-05-16T08:02:09.495+01:00Ohh, and btw, I do aggree with most of your points...Ohh, and btw, I do aggree with most of your points :-) allthough the lightside/darkside thing still irks me. Even if it is a small issue since the gear isnt the most important pieces exactly, its still a gameplay incentive to play either light or dark, rather than play as you want :-) Now adays i just ignore it thoughShandrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09243368468608048536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-50246267712324959732015-05-16T07:58:57.479+01:002015-05-16T07:58:57.479+01:00I actually enjoy the challenge of trying to make m...I actually enjoy the challenge of trying to make my account functional as preferred status. Almost all the hurdles can be overcome by time and AH. The one that has me "annoyed" the most though (ie it requires the most problematic workaround) is the credit limit. With the inflation 350k simply isnt enough to buy really anything. I still manage by having a friend play my bank, and not picking sales up from mailbox unless he is there to retrieve the money. I also have to have him buy/sell items that are worth more than 350k by themselves, or go outside the AH and sell in chat, and still have to trust people to mail me the money (in packets of 350k).<br />It is sort of fun. But it really is a VERY restrictive f2p setup. My friend who subs of cause has none of these issues, and you are right in saying that if you just look at it as a subtame, the model is fine. If you look at it as a subgame the f2p version/demo is a LOT more forgiving than wows max lvl 20 no trading, max 10gold (or something) version. With the wowtoken introduced it will be easier to feel as a real subber in wow than in SWTOR though. Wish they would make something similar for SWTOR :-)Shandrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09243368468608048536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-4039590861949556262015-05-15T19:04:37.993+01:002015-05-15T19:04:37.993+01:00I certainly feel better just having written it dow...I certainly feel better just having written it down, after all the comments I've had to read that made me shake my head over time...Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-81940605531720213172015-05-15T19:03:05.512+01:002015-05-15T19:03:05.512+01:00I don't read FB comments on anything really be...I don't read FB comments on <i>anything</i> really because they are so user-unfriendly with how hard they are to un-collapse and with how hard it is to see replies to specific comments. I'm not surprised that I don't seem to be missing out on anything. :PShintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-72169734986652265882015-05-15T14:51:25.619+01:002015-05-15T14:51:25.619+01:00This is a really good post; I hope it finds the au...This is a really good post; I hope it finds the audience of SWTOR newbies and aspirant newbies it deserves. I recognize many of the assumptions and then I always sigh deeply and proceed to explain why this and this isn't true because etc etc.... Next time I'll just send them to this post instead! ;)Ravanelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03447777640056476366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-6274584953122989032015-05-15T13:50:37.154+01:002015-05-15T13:50:37.154+01:00Whatever you do, don't read the FB comments. ...Whatever you do, don't read the FB comments. The EA haters and the "they still play this game" comments make it akin to YouTube comments.Redbeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05306063084983025771noreply@blogger.com