tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post5416432899887760739..comments2024-03-26T20:47:12.919+00:00Comments on Going Commando | A SWTOR Fan Blog: Back In My Day: TravelShintarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-63213824930496686552016-10-12T16:18:55.369+01:002016-10-12T16:18:55.369+01:00True, but the way the quick travel is implemented ...True, but the way the quick travel is implemented in a fantasy game implies teleportation. Look at WoW's heartstone or LOTRO's milestones, and how they're implemented graphically. I would prefer to have a version of this that mimics the "swift travel" option that LOTRO has, where a mount is summoned, you take off and then fade to black, only to reappear at the correct endpoint.Redbeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05306063084983025771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-80168551480584897252016-10-12T13:46:33.943+01:002016-10-12T13:46:33.943+01:00I guess they had to move the Revanite quest giver....I guess they had to move the Revanite quest giver. I have a hazy memory of him originally being by the taxi pad that takes you to the class enclaves in the north of Kass City (where the Chiss oficer who is the bounty week mission contact is now), back when that wasn't linked up to the rest of the speeder system and you had to slog from the taxi pad by the gate into the city no matter what. Now you'd be very likely to miss seeing him because you can just bypass the walk in Kaas City. OTOH, by placing him at the gate in The Wall, the REvanite Camp appears to someplace to go <i>after</i> doing the Estate zone...Ian Argenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03704336044732061128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-12870948402502706732016-10-12T09:28:41.783+01:002016-10-12T09:28:41.783+01:00I remember having a guild "summoning party&qu...I remember having a guild "summoning party" to get that one really pesky Makeb datacron for all our alts. I did it once properly on my main first, and would have felt like a cheater if I hadn't, but there was no way I was doing it with twelve characters.<br /><br />I almost regret the decision to make datacrons account-wide. Datacron runs (especially the fleet ones) were quite regular social affairs in my guild. I don't suppose we'll ever do them again.Guidohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07882687017712412137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-6665785090386529632016-10-12T07:02:03.723+01:002016-10-12T07:02:03.723+01:00Hah yeah, that exact same thing happened to me on ...Hah yeah, that exact same thing happened to me on my DvL Merc.Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-1402847060858064712016-10-12T02:49:21.929+01:002016-10-12T02:49:21.929+01:00It came to mind because I just realized I missed d...It came to mind because I just realized I missed doing that one quest on DK where you have to go defeat 12 or so of those stealth spy aliens for some paranoid idiot while I was there with my DvL Sorc. Also, while they moved the Revanite quest giver on DK, the way they did it breaks the flow of travel such that I always end up clearing out the rest of the Gratham's Estate missions, going up to the Revanite sanctuary, playing their reindeer games, and then cussing because I realize I have to go BACK into the Estate to get the [FNORD].Ian Argenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03704336044732061128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-7055749908268591772016-10-11T19:54:03.943+01:002016-10-11T19:54:03.943+01:00That's true (just the other day I visited that...That's true (just the other day I visited that old lady still hiding at the foot a mountain on Alderaan), but they also moved others around to make sure you will see them even if you don't travel along the road the first time and take a taxi instead.Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-73526021259856415172016-10-11T19:51:46.459+01:002016-10-11T19:51:46.459+01:00I understand that argument in theory, I don't ...I understand that argument in theory, I don't think it applies in practice though, because lore-wise, Star Wars doesn't generally have instant teleportation either (the teleporters on Belsavis are a clear exception) and quick travel is implied to happen via a shuttle picking you up.<br /><br />With the way many fantasy games have copied WoW's way of summoning mounts out of nowhere, there's no reason you couldn't have a quick travel option where a mount appears, the view fades to black, and then you instantly reappear at your destination.Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-91863289304061548272016-10-11T19:48:12.720+01:002016-10-11T19:48:12.720+01:00I don't know how I'd feel about being able...I don't know how I'd feel about being able to hop between planets completely without restriction. I do think having to slow down just a little there helps a bit... not exactly with immersion, but with sense of scale. We're already traversing entire planets in an instant; a galaxy is an even bigger place though.Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-38293186433206017752016-10-11T19:37:01.087+01:002016-10-11T19:37:01.087+01:00You can miss some non-story givers by not travelli...You can miss some non-story givers by not travelling as the original design contemplated.Ian Argenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03704336044732061128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-69215768349455889102016-10-11T14:32:53.158+01:002016-10-11T14:32:53.158+01:00I'd argue that another aspect of the ease of t...I'd argue that another aspect of the ease of travel in SWTOR is that it <i>is</i> a SF game (or Science Fantasy game, given the nature of the Force), so the prospect of instant travel seems more likely. In fantasy worlds such as LOTRO or WoW or Age of Conan, not so much. You have to assume a certain level of magical commonality that most Fantasy worlds simply don't have. Take WoW for instance; sure there's magic all over the place (and teampunk-esque tech more as an in-joke than anything else) but instant travel outside of a Mage's porting ability doesn't exist.* And Middle-earth was very much a "low magic" world as Tolkien envisioned it in the Third Age, and even the Elder Days didn't have magic to the point of having teleportation or flight (with rare exceptions), both of which are common abilities in any mid-high level D&D game.<br /><br />But in an SF game the prospect of instant travel makes sense. Technology allows a player to move around in ways that hoofing it on foot or by mount simply can't match.<br /><br />That said, I still travel on foot in SWTOR a lot, mainly to hear the little quips by companions when we hit a new area.<br /><br />*Blizz did make players re-learn all of the flightpaths in Mists after dropping it for Cataclysm, but I don't know if they returned to the Cata method for Warlords or Legion.Redbeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05306063084983025771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-41704523984409140092016-10-11T09:08:39.877+01:002016-10-11T09:08:39.877+01:00My original main was so broke after buying a speed...My original main was so broke after buying a speeder he couldn't afford to buy skill upgrades! That was a real "old school MMO" moment at the time. <br /><br />I still don't have most of the mentioned legacy perks unlocked so I guess I tend to use my characters ships a lot more. <br /><br />Quick travel in SWTOR is both more convenient and less advanced than the equivalent in other MMOs. You can quick travel for free a lot more often than most MMOs, but not being able to quick travel to your choice of planet could (and still can) be a bit of a jarring moment. <br />However, compared to MMOs like LOTRO and Wildstar that allow you to fast travel to almost any location. Although it's time-consuming having to use the old ship to fly between planets, I still love the little hyperspace jump animation and I will never grow tired of that.Telwynhttp://gamingsf.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-88840652136208990592016-10-11T06:43:02.177+01:002016-10-11T06:43:02.177+01:00I remember credit management being quite tough whi...I remember credit management being quite tough while levelling because skills were so expensive, but once I hit 50 all my woes disappeared as one round of Belsavis dailies resulted in 100k or something even then...Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-83199703790060715382016-10-11T06:41:40.647+01:002016-10-11T06:41:40.647+01:00Ouch, Tatooine on foot must have been quite someth...Ouch, Tatooine on foot must have been quite something. I'm surprised you managed to stick with the game. :PShintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-11301463051115408892016-10-10T22:42:29.040+01:002016-10-10T22:42:29.040+01:00OMG, yeah, I would save up all my money while leve...OMG, yeah, I would save up all my money while leveling up for those speeder skills and vehicles. It was actually quite expensive back in the day, when I had gotten to 50 I was pretty much broke. Of course back then you couldn't spend money on outfits and pretty stronghold decorations...Ravanelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03447777640056476366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1538233114133115363.post-24162942823695196262016-10-10T22:34:47.450+01:002016-10-10T22:34:47.450+01:00I still remember doing the entirety of Republic Ta...I still remember doing the entirety of Republic Tatooine without a speeder back in the day (long story short; my character was just <i>that</i> bad at Credit management), which is something I don't think even I - with my preference for traversing the landscapes with nothing but personal vehicles as opposed to Quick Travel - could bear to do again while questing.<br /><br />I did recently do a walking tour of Alderaan, though. That was nice to do without needing to rush from point A to point B.Calphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15809660484854758097noreply@blogger.com